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Post by sh3lby on Oct 17, 2005 18:49:36 GMT -4
I have a question (of course I do) about something that happened at home base on our game..
I'll try to make this simple.. First the scenario
There is a runner on 3rd base, and no runners on 1st or 2nd, the ball is kicked, runner on third runs home.
I get the ball back in my grubby lil hands and have my foot on home plate before the runner touches home plate.
When the runner touches home plate, is that an out or do they score? Do I actually have to physically tag them with the red bouncy red ball to get them out or are they out since my foot is on home plate before they touch home.
does that make sense? if not I can drawl a diagram =)
*made a correction in my wording but still the same question*
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Post by Scottyg on Oct 17, 2005 18:56:47 GMT -4
I'm pretty sure that this is right.
If it is not a force (and its not with no one on 1st or 2nd) then you would have to tag or peg the player out BEFORE they touch the plate. Just standing on the plate with the ball will not make it an automatic out.
Likewise, if there is no force on say 2nd base and the player over runs the bag, just because someone is standing on the bag with the ball does not mean that the runner is out. The runner has to be tagged or pegged.
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Post by sh3lby on Oct 17, 2005 19:09:32 GMT -4
re read my question.. I think you miss read it.. If the person touches the base while I'm touching the base (and have the ball in my hands) is my question. I know just tagging the base they're not out cause they don't 'have' to go to my base they can go back.. and then it becomes a game of keep away.. =)
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Post by Scottyg on Oct 17, 2005 19:14:41 GMT -4
Right, in that scenario they score, you have to tag them out unless its a force.
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Post by sh3lby on Oct 17, 2005 19:19:10 GMT -4
reaaaaaaaaaallly... that is interesting..
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anwilli
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Post by anwilli on Oct 17, 2005 19:47:16 GMT -4
That is why I tried to knock you over so you would drop the ball. hee hee
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Post by sh3lby on Oct 17, 2005 21:36:36 GMT -4
*shakes head* meanie =)
sports confuse me.. is this the same in baseball too? you have to tag a runner with your glove? I'm just having flashbacks of games I've seen / played in HS about this stuff.. and I never got non force out tagging of bases.
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Post by Scottyg on Oct 18, 2005 9:06:39 GMT -4
Think about when a runner steals 2nd, the catcher has to throw the ball so that the 2nd baseman can tag the runner, even though the 2nd baseman is usually standing on the base.
I'm not sure how charging the catcher would work out in kickball though, because the ball is always live, so as soon as it touches the runner, I think they are out, regardless of whether or not the catcher retains control of the ball. May have to check with the higher ups on that one.
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Post by Dagger on Oct 18, 2005 10:06:27 GMT -4
Scooters you bring up a good point worth asking the WAKA gods. I guess when the catcher has the ball he/she needs to keep the ball in front so the first contact is with the runner.
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Post by anwilli on Oct 18, 2005 10:08:31 GMT -4
Either way, I really just wanted to collide with Shelby. = )
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Post by Dagger on Oct 18, 2005 10:11:01 GMT -4
Either way, I really just wanted to collide with Shelby. = ) You just wanted the Sh3lby *lick*.
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Post by aspey on Oct 18, 2005 11:13:33 GMT -4
I guess when the catcher has the ball he/she needs to keep the ball in front so the first contact is with the runner. Exactly. And Scott explained the original question quite well. Standing on the plate at the same time as the runner doesn't matter if it's not a force.
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